OCEAN BLUE and EMBER RED[[File:Ember_Red_Version.jpg|thumb|216px|the speculative remake of pokemon red/fire red]]
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no cheating what so ever was used to obtain these teams just time it took me about a week to finish each game and then another to fully lvl them up after the completion of the game ho oh was obtained through an event.
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the rason i have two staters per team is because i have kind friends who tade me the pokemon throuout the game i always choos the fire stater and then pick the best looking one for my second stater again no cheating