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:Uh, have you put in the voice (cry)? It is an important part in the box that shouldn't be left out. '''<span style="background:purple">[[User:Energy X|Energy]] ''[[User talk:Energy X|X]]''</span>''' 20:54, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Uh, have you put in the voice (cry)? It is an important part in the box that shouldn't be left out. '''<span style="background:purple">[[User:Energy X|Energy]] ''[[User talk:Energy X|X]]''</span>''' 20:54, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
::I know that but we have to remember that people rarely listen to a Pokémon's Cry (even if they are an important part) so it isn't compulsory to make a field for it in the top part of the template were the major info are to be placed. And with the development that the XY Games received, almost all older Pokémon's Cry have been updated to match the sound quality that a 3DS could give us. So, considering that, we have to work around and maybe add a few new fields that would keep track of a Pokémon's Cry from each Gens Hand-held device (GB, GBC, GBA, NDS, 3DS) and the format they were created in (as long as there is a change in the Pokemon's Cry quality and style, we have to keep track of it).--[[User:Supratim1986|Supratim1986]] ([[User talk:Supratim1986|talk]]) 07:25, October 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
::I know that but we have to remember that people rarely listen to a Pokémon's Cry (even if they are an important part) so it isn't compulsory to make a field for it in the top part of the template were the major info are to be placed. And with the development that the XY Games received, almost all older Pokémon's Cry have been updated to match the sound quality that a 3DS could give us. So, considering that, we have to work around and maybe add a few new fields that would keep track of a Pokémon's Cry from each Gens Hand-held device (GB, GBC, GBA, NDS, 3DS) and the format they were created in (as long as there is a change in the Pokemon's Cry quality and style, we have to keep track of it).--[[User:Supratim1986|Supratim1986]] ([[User talk:Supratim1986|talk]]) 07:25, October 30, 2013 (UTC)
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:It may be a good idea, for us to figure out what kind of information we'll be taking out of the template, and where the best place to put it on the page is... Oh and Supratim, you have my thanks, its an extreme task taking on changing something like the pokébox, and its another thing all together to get it to work. c: Supra, (if you don't mind me calling you that) We could probably build a new template that has the cries of the pokémon, from the respective generations. The only problem, is finding a (I think that I have one, using "<nowiki>{{#if:{{{1}}}|is{{{2}}}then same}}</nowiki>" Or something to that effect) So that if a cry is the same for a couple of generations, that it won't display the same cry on all three generation fields on the template. I will be building that template today and tomorrow... Fielonel should have his evolution template finished, I'm interested to see how exactly he has done the evolution for Eevee and for other pokémon with more than one evolution. {{User:Slayingthehalcyon/sig2|12:38,10/30/2013}}

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Forums: Index Help desk PokéBox restructuring


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Take a look at eevee, the PokéBox is in dire need of restructuring, what with the three new PokéDexes and even all the varying kinds of abilities are just getting out of hand. Either we change the entire box concept and go to the standard straight line across the right side of the page like we do in other article types or just a reordering and replacing of where all of this info should go.

So first things first, should we keep the boxy across the entire page layout or should we go to the straight line, aligned to the right of the page infobox layout? Once that is decided we can continue on to how things should be structured.

Thoughts?
Gotta Kill 'Em All!03:03

Gotta Kill 'Em All!

. ƒelinoel_Oshawott B2W2
02:33, October 24, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, the current one is confusing. Playing the cry of the Pokemon just expands the box and making it less understandble. I agree with felinoel's idea. --I'd like your feedback as to whether I was brilliant or simply outstanding. 13:34, October 24, 2013 (UTC)
lol which one? I gave two options, turning the box into a regularly shaped infobox or just reordering things so that it is a relatively even rectangle across the top of the page again.
Gotta Kill 'Em All!03:03

Gotta Kill 'Em All!

. ƒelinoel_Oshawott B2W2
13:43, October 24, 2013 (UTC)
Hard to say. But, we can just put the cry below the image, while the PokéDex numbers on the other side. Energy X 20:04, October 24, 2013 (UTC)
Below the image? Like where we currently put the evolution at?
We could lose the evolution portion of the pokebox completely and just use this instead.
Gotta Kill 'Em All!03:03

Gotta Kill 'Em All!

. ƒelinoel_Oshawott B2W2
20:09, October 24, 2013 (UTC)
That is a good idea. Well, the only thing I don't see is in which Generation the Pokémon belongs to. Should it be instated back in the template? Energy X 20:27, October 24, 2013 (UTC)
Well... if you look at Bulbasaur what generation he is in is shown on the Template:GenInav on the bottom of the page? lol
Gotta Kill 'Em All!03:03

Gotta Kill 'Em All!

. ƒelinoel_Oshawott B2W2
20:37, October 24, 2013 (UTC)
What do you people think of this design (could someone tell me were to post the code here). I was able to adjust it like this (need help after this). My plan is to add more section below the "Regional Pokedex" part like "Pokedex Entries", "Base Stats", "Evolutionary Line" and then either use the "Collapse" or "Tabber" or "Switch" tags on them to hide them (so that the over all template doesn't look to large). With this design the basic info of the Pokemon's are easily viewable while the more in-depth parts would stay hidden. Like for example, if the "Collapse" tag is used then this should be the output (made this one with the help of PhotoShop). I am not sure if i would be able to make it completely by myself with my limited knowledge or understanding regarding coding. Also i need help on some other aspects as well but that i would tell about if this design is accepted.--Supratim1986 (talk) 10:35, October 26, 2013 (UTC)
Actually I think it is fine as is like that.
Gotta Kill 'Em All!03:03

Gotta Kill 'Em All!

. ƒelinoel_Oshawott B2W2
04:57, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry if i sound like an idiot asking this, but what do you exactly mean. Are you implying that the Structure that i suggested is Fine, or is it that the one being used presently is Fine and there is no need to restructure it.--Supratim1986 (talk) 11:01, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
You said you felt you needed to add a tabber to include extra information and I was saying that it is fine without.
Maybe a place for the sound it makes at the very bottom though...
Gotta Kill 'Em All!03:03

Gotta Kill 'Em All!

. ƒelinoel_Oshawott B2W2
12:58, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying that. I posted the adjusted data on this page. If you feel that place is wrong then could you move it to the proper place. Also i would like you to see the data and correct any mistakes or error in it. And after that i would like your help to add options to differentiate the data of the Ability (Normal 1 & 2 and Hidden 1 & 2), Johto (GSC & HGSS) & Unova (BW & B2W2) fields. Also i think it would be better to create another Pokébox exclusive for Mega Evolved Pokémons, since the amount of info relating to them is less, so it would be kind of useless to use the same fields as the ones we use for other pokemons.--Supratim1986 (talk) 19:41, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
Your userspace is fine.
I agree that a secondary pokebox with less info would be appropriate for the new forms of pokemon like these "Mega" forms, especially since it is rumored that there will soon be a ton more.
Gotta Kill 'Em All!03:03

Gotta Kill 'Em All!

. ƒelinoel_Oshawott B2W2
22:03, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
Ok then, i would work on making a simplified template for the Mega Evo's.
Posted an example page in here. Could anyone help me make fields for entering the Pokédex Numbers of HGSS & B2W2 in there for easier entry (it would be helpful if the same could be done for Hidden Abilities as well)..--Supratim1986 (talk) 10:27, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
Supratim1986: if I may, is it possible that I could make a few changes to the box? if you would like, I can help with the things that you needed help with. just hop on chat and give me a good description of how you would like for them to appear. Also I will be asking ye if I can adjust and add parameters for the evolution and ndexnext/prev   Slayingthehalcyon   (Talk)  14:44,10/29/2013    4,174  
I just went ahead and copied, made some changes, here's my version of said template, template of concern and I added ndexprev/next and evofrom/into.   Slayingthehalcyon   (Talk)  14:58,10/29/2013    4,174  
I don't have any problem with you making changes, since any type of help would be appreciated. As for the ones you made, i think that "ndexprev/next" is sort of a useless field to add, since there are already some Pokemons pages that separately have that field above the Pokébox Template (Example) which looks actually much better. And it was sort of decided that a different Template would be used in regards to "Evolutions" of a Pokemon in here, since in case of some there might be some complications.--Supratim1986 (talk) 18:05, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
I kinda like the Ndex/Prev, To me, it makes it seem more like you were looking at it in a pokédex device. >.< I have been wanting to do away with that template that you said was on some of the Pokémon pages, as I think putting more information into the pokébox, would be better. I will be working on the move boxes here pretty soon. I will most likely start working on them when I get a large break from school. >.< : In regards to evolution, I like the new template for it, hopefully its the same one that Feloneil has been working on.I hope to be producing a template that will help us display the range of stats over the expanse of 10 levels of a pokémon. That may or may not be extremely hard to do, as I have had trouble trying to figure out a design that looks and works the way that I want it to.   Slayingthehalcyon   (Talk)  18:17,10/29/2013    4,174  
Uh, have you put in the voice (cry)? It is an important part in the box that shouldn't be left out. Energy X 20:54, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
I know that but we have to remember that people rarely listen to a Pokémon's Cry (even if they are an important part) so it isn't compulsory to make a field for it in the top part of the template were the major info are to be placed. And with the development that the XY Games received, almost all older Pokémon's Cry have been updated to match the sound quality that a 3DS could give us. So, considering that, we have to work around and maybe add a few new fields that would keep track of a Pokémon's Cry from each Gens Hand-held device (GB, GBC, GBA, NDS, 3DS) and the format they were created in (as long as there is a change in the Pokemon's Cry quality and style, we have to keep track of it).--Supratim1986 (talk) 07:25, October 30, 2013 (UTC)
It may be a good idea, for us to figure out what kind of information we'll be taking out of the template, and where the best place to put it on the page is... Oh and Supratim, you have my thanks, its an extreme task taking on changing something like the pokébox, and its another thing all together to get it to work. c: Supra, (if you don't mind me calling you that) We could probably build a new template that has the cries of the pokémon, from the respective generations. The only problem, is finding a (I think that I have one, using "{{#if:{{{1}}}|is{{{2}}}then same}}" Or something to that effect) So that if a cry is the same for a couple of generations, that it won't display the same cry on all three generation fields on the template. I will be building that template today and tomorrow... Fielonel should have his evolution template finished, I'm interested to see how exactly he has done the evolution for Eevee and for other pokémon with more than one evolution.   Slayingthehalcyon   (Talk)  12:38,10/30/2013    4,174  

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